Joseph Pinta

Joseph was the 8th and the last know child of Jean Baptist and Luce.  He was born in New Orleans on 22 June 1816, baptized at St. Louis Cathedral on 30 Sept 1816. 

For several years it was believed that Joseph's middle name was Dayant.  However, after careful examination of documents including the will of JB, his father, it was determined that Joseph did not have a middle name.  Please see blog post and comments of 6 December 2010 under subcategory of wills, for a discussion of this subject.

The following document is from the Notarial Archives of  New Orleans for Notary Theodore Seghers, January - March 1836.  I believe it shows that Joseph purchased land from Charles Drouet.  However, I can't read French so I don't know what it says for certain.  It mentions Union Street, between Morales and Urguhart Street and I am not sure if is the piece of land he is buying or if that is where he is currently living, or both!  I don't think the document has any other important information, but what do I know!  It is difficult to decipher but I think the document is dated 26 April 1836.

Joseph married Julia Raby (Rabby) on 5 January 1837 at the Cathedral of Immaculate Conception in Mobile, AL.   They had 8 known children from 1837 to 1860 and lost two young children to Scarlet Fever in 1860.

Luce died on 14 December 1838 at her son's home, Joseph.  The death record states he was living on Union Street, between Morales and Urguhart Street, suburb Marigny 3rd municipality, in NOLA.

Joseph was listed  in the early 1840's city directories in Mobile then beginning in the 1851 directory back in NOLA  near Marais and Treme.  The later part of the 1850's they were living on Gasquet and tax lists show he was a retailer and a cigar maker/tobacconist in the 1860's at Canal & Basin in NOLA.

He died 13 February 1867 at 165 Gasquet Street in New Orleans and is buried at St. Louis Cathedral Cemetery #2 in NOLA.  Records show that his son Joseph was living at 165 Gasquet Street in 1869 so we can assume that Joseph, the father, died at his son's home.  The death certificate states he died of liver problems, however, over three thousand people parished in New Orleans from Yellow Fever in 1867.  Perhaps he also contracted Yellow Fever.

Jean Claude Foloe Pinta

Well Jean Claude Pinta, you have really confused me!  And the rest of you will also be confused if I can explain the full scope of the conflicting documentation.  So the pressure is on.....  

1.   BIRTH/BAPTISMAL RECORD:

• Jean Claude was the sixth child of Jean Baptiste and Luce and was born about 1809-1811 based on his age found on various pieces of evidence.  However, I can't find a baptismal record for him, even though Louis Henry, Juan Marcelino and Marie Josephine had their baptismal records listed in Vol 10 of the Sacramental Records for the Archdiocese of New Orleans for 1810-1812. Jean Lucien is found on Vol 11 for 1813-1815.  A friend checked Vol 9 1807-1809 and found nothing for Jean Claude.  If he was baptized 1809-1811 we could assume his baptism would be listed in one of those volumes.

• The will of Jean Baptiste in 1820, lists his son, Claude age 9 and there was no mention of a son named Juan/Jean Marcelino. 

• The recorder of the baptism of Juan Marcelino, Archdiocese of New Orleans, listed his name incorrectly because the priest was probably Spanish and changed his French “Jean” to Spanish “Juan”.  If the priest made this error on the name, is there another error? 

• Juan Marcelino could have died very young and perhaps we have not yet located a death record.  Was Jean Claude baptized elsewhere?  Not likely.  Did the baptism of Jean Claude get overlooked when the Archdiocese volumes were produced?  OR could Juan Marcelino be Jean Claude?                                                       

     2)  RELATIONSHIPS/MARRIAGES

• Jean Clode Foloe Pinta married Margueritte Colin, 28 October 1828 in Mobile.  (Jean Claude would have been age 17-19).  No known children from this marriage.

• According to Abstracts of Orphans Court Minutes of Mobile Co, entered July 24, 1830:  John Glode Foloe PINTA produces will of TROUILLET, Margaritte, deceased, his wife.   Guardians were appointed for Emeline TROUILLET alias Emeline PINTA, infant under 14 years; and Henry TROUILLET alias PINTA, under 14.  Will book 1 states:  Margaritte Trouillet, a free woman of colour……..unto my two children, Emeline, who is aged about eight years and Louis Henry, my son aged about nine months, and to my friend Toloe? Pinta, who is the father of my two before mentioned children. The is contradictory in that the first record states they are married but the later insinuates they are not married, but Jean Claude is the father of her children. (He would have been age 11-13 at the birth of Emeline and age 18-20 when Louis Henry was born.)  Perhaps he really wasn’t the father of Emeline.  Was TROUILLET his concubine?  He just married COLIN a year before the birth of Louis Henry?   

• Married Marie Victoria Raby 2 December 1833.  They had five children between 1834 and 1843.

• Is Margueritte Colin and Margaritte Trouillet the same person?   

Jean Claude died the same day as Nicholas, his son with Marie Victorie Rabby, on 22 September 1852.  Cause of death has not been located for either Nicholas or Jean Claude.

Are there two Jean Claude Foloe Pinta men in the area, about the same age, with similar names?

Lots of questions and the documentation we have is unclear.  This is a great deal of info for one posting.  More research needs to be done to get this all straightened out.  So, are you now as confused as I?  Let me know what you think!

Charles Beauvilaires Pinta

Charles Beauvilaires Pinta was probably the first born child of  Jean Baptiste Pinta and Luce Henriette Grandmaison.  Born about 1803, in Cuba.  On 19 February 1829, at the age of about 26 in Orleans Parish, Louisiana, he married Eulalie Allain, daughter of Valerien Allain and Dorothee Lassise.  Eulalie was the widow of Pierre Derestan Dalcour.  Charles Beauvilaires and Eulalie had five known children between 1831 and 1838.

According to a fellow Pinta researcher, CB was a sponsor at the baptism for one of Casimir Pinta's children in April 1827.

In the early to mid 1830's CB's occupation was listed as dry goods/grocery.  He bought & sold slaves, and was trying to find his direction in life to best support his family.  Beginning in 1838 records indicate he was a jeweler and continued in that occupation through 1855.  Previously, in 1822,  his mother Luce was a jeweler, continuing her late husband's business.  It would appear that CB worked with his father, learned the trade and perhaps helped his mother after JB died in 1820.

CB opened an account at Freedman's Bank on 4 February 1873.  He was listed as white and living at Gasquet #165.  He outlived his wife and children and died at the age of 70 on 17 March 1873 in Orleans Parish, Louisiana. 

Marriage document and transcription for Joseph & Julia

Church Records, 1704-1996, Catholic Church, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, Mobile, AL. Microfilm of original records in Archdiocese of Mobile, Mobile, AL, Filmed by Genealogical Society of Utah 1996, available through Family History Center, www.familysearch.org.  Film #2047323, Marriages-black 1830-1860:

Anno Domini 1837

No. 28

Joseph Pinta

Julie Rabby

January 5^th, 1837

In the year of our Lord one thousand eight

hundred & thirty seven & on the fifth day of

January, I the undersigned vicar general of the

C. C. Bishop, of Mobile certify that I have

joined together in the holy bond of matrimony

Joseph Pinta with Julie Rabby free colored

persons native of this country.  the dispensations for

the publication of the three bans has been granted,

the license had been obtained from the court &

two witnesses were present. In faith whereof I have

signed.

                                    M. Loras

(Note:  this is the only marriage listed in 1837 in black marriages)